I just watched the latest Muslim radical beheading video.
The most disgusting thing I have ever seen in my life. I fucking hate them. People complain about Americans invading Iraq and how unfair it is and unjust we are. After watching that video, fuck them. They don't even give the hostage a quick death. People think of axes or guillitines(sp?) when they hear beheadings. They fucking sawed this guys head off slowly. His screams turned to gargles and the blood began to pour, but you could tell he was still alive. And they've done this many times to many innocent people. People bitched about the prison abuse. That was nothing compared to this. I think, for now (until I can get that image out of my head), I have no compassion for anyone on that side of the world. If anyone here wants to criticize me or anything, watch the video yourself and see if you don't feel the same.
The wicked plot against the righteous and gnash thier teeth at them; but the Lord laughs at the wicked for he knows their day is comming.
Psalms 37, 12,13
I've given up after watching the Nepalese hostage video. I can't watch them anymore. And it's difficult to ever stop hate. And I do agree about the prison videos - they may have worried about getting naked, but that's a wee bit better than having your head sawn off with a switchblade.
No...perspective concerning the war. An "Oh this is why we're there" perspective as opposed to an "we just want oil" perspective. I thought that was obvious.
Yeah...I think in a crunch the US actually has enough of its own oil to do just fine. Besides that I think that it's probably best to work to become less dependant on crude oil so we don't have that problem.
But here's my question. I think 2 valid arguments can be made regarding the war.
Which do you think was the biggest reason for going in?
Sadam was at least stable, he killed the little bastards better than we could, you cant play nice with these people they will not listen to reason i mean comon they are led by a cleric half the time i havent herd that phrase since my goofy friend was dm'ing a D and d thing.
that is weird. You need to find other better ways to solve the fucking problems out there,not war. There is real democracy around the world,you may want to destroy all to build that democracy by your side. The war is mostly for security reasons--security for fossil fuels. Wise up!
Saddam should be definitely out of power.But I still have a question here:
Why did not America attack Saudi Arabia? It is fucking mess out there.
Is it just because that fucking "brotherhood" between em? Or simply coz Dubya forget where do those 9/11 hijackers come from? And where is WMD?
For those who believe the war in Iraq is over oil, read the following excerpt from the UN's World Economic Outlook, published last month:
"The major driving force behind the persistent rise in oil prices has been stronger-than-expected global oil demand, which is growing by an annual average of more than 2 million barrels per day, the fastest rate in recent history.
At the same time, major oil-producing countries had been restraining their supply until recently. these effects were exacerbated by other developments such as the geopolitical tension in the Middle East, political conditions in Nigeria and Venezuela, the uncertainty about the large Russian oil company Yukios, the weakness of the United States dollar vis-a-vis other major currencies, and the herd behavior of speculative investors, including some hedge funds, in the oil futures marked.
The probability of a global oil crisis, however, is not high because there has not been a disruption in oil supplies on the scale necessary to engender a sharp, worldwide erosion of consumer and business confidence. To the contrary, major oil producers have become more amenable to responding to the increase in the global oil demand and some have the capacity to do so."
paula wrote:No, it couldn't be about 9/11, because that was Osama bin Laden and his pals, not Saddam.
"It's a fundamental misunderstanding to say that the war on terror is only Osama bin Laden. The war on terror is to make sure that these terrorist organizations do not end up with weapons of mass destruction. That's what the war on terror is about."
President Bush, responding to a question by Anthony Baldi at the second Presidential Debate, St. Louis, Missouri, October 8, 2004.
WAR is good for the economy, pulled us out of the depression. So if the president wants go to war let him, as long as our military contracts our staying in the country.
"It's a fundamental misunderstanding to say that the war on terror is only Osama bin Laden. The war on terror is to make sure that these terrorist organizations do not end up with weapons of mass destruction. That's what the war on terror is about."
One of the fundamental goals of al-Qaeda is to restore the 7th century Caliphate and enact Sharia law. Saudi Arabia is one of the nations which does not enforce Sharia law.
In this effort, al-Qaeda operatives have targeted Saudi Arabia in terrorist attacks, as well as the royal family. In the past year there have been three assassination attempts on Crown Prince Abdullah.
Since September 11, 2001, the U.S. has been attacked once. Saudi Arabia has been the target of 15 seperate terrorist attacks since 2001.
If you check the MIPT Terrorism Knowledge Base, there is not once terrorist organization based in Saudi Arabia.
Following Iraq's invasion of Kuwait in 1990, Saudi Arabia accepted the Kuwaiti royal family and 400,000 refugees while allowing Western and Arab troops to deploy on its soil for the liberation of Kuwait the following year.
More on Saudi Arabia, from the Council on Foreign Relations:
How many of the September 11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia?
Of the 19 hijackers, 15 were Saudi citizens. Many al-Qaeda fighters are from Saudi Arabia, as is Osama bin Laden himself.
Has Saudi Arabia participated in the U.S.-led war on terrorism?
Secretary of State Colin Powell says that “every request we have put before the Saudis, they have responded to positively. They have taken action and they are going to do more as we give them more information to act upon.” But press reports paint a more mixed picture of U.S.-Saudi relations since September 11.
Many experts question the extent of Saudi military, financial, and diplomatic support for the U.S.-led campaign against terrorism. Some analysts say that the Bush administration did not ask to use military bases in Saudi Arabia during the war on Afghanistan for fear of being turned down. However, much of the air war was run through Prince Sultan Air Force Base. Senior Saudi officials blame the bad press on lies and misinformation peddled in the U.S. media by agents of a deliberate anti-Saudi campaign.
For months, the Saudis also rejected charges that al-Qaeda had a presence in the kingdom, but in June 2002, Saudi officials arrested 13 men, all but two of them Saudis, suspected of al-Qaeda activity, including an attempt to shoot down a U.S. military plane.
Does Saudi Arabia’s recent peace proposal affect the war on terrorism?
Yes. Experts say that tamping down the Israeli-Palestinian crisis could bolster Saudi Arabia and other Arab states fearing domestic unrest and ease American efforts to secure Arab support for a possible campaign against Iraq. The March 2002 Arab League summit in Beirut backed a Saudi plan to have Arab states agree to “normal relations” with Israel in exchange for Israeli withdrawal from territories held since 1967—an uncharacteristically bold overture hailed by the United States but soon overshadowed by rising violence. Saudi officials have warned the Bush administration that failing to “rein in” Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon could rupture the U.S.-Saudi relationship. In another sign of friction, Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah opposed President Bush’s June 2002 call to replace Yasir Arafat with a new Palestinian leadership not tied to terrorism.
Would Saudi Arabia support a U.S.-led attack on Iraq?
It depends. Saudi officials now say they would make their air bases available to foreign troops in the event of a U.N.-sanctioned attack. But Saudi Arabia still worries about what the precedent of U.S.-enforced “regime change” in Iraq could mean. “Some days you say you want to attack Iraq, some days Somalia, some days Lebanon, some days Syria,” the intelligence chief Prince Nawwaf told the New York Times in January 2002. “Who do you want to attack? All the Arab world? And you want us to support that? It’s impossible. It’s impossible.” The Saudis also worry that a swipe at Saddam Hussein’s regime may not finish it off, leaving the kingdom vulnerable, or that a post-Saddam Iraq could fragment, helping Iran expand its influence. At the March 2002 summit, Saudi Arabia joined the Arab League in voting unanimously to oppose any U.S. attack on Iraq.
What sort of a country is Saudi Arabia?
The vast, oil-rich desert kingdom of Saudi Arabia was established in 1932 by King Abdul Aziz bin Abdul Rahman al-Saud, known as Ibn Saud. It is about a quarter of the size of the United States and has the largest oil reserves in the world. The kingdom contains Islam’s two holiest sites, the cities of Mecca and Medina. About 23 million people live in Saudi Arabia, including more than 6 million non-Saudis. Official U.S.-Saudi relations began with a 1945 handshake between President Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Ibn Saud aboard the U.S.S. Quincy.
Who is the leader of Saudi Arabia?
In 1995, the current king, Fahd, one of Ibn Saud’s sons, suffered a debilitating stroke; Crown Prince Abdullah, Fahd’s half brother, now handles the day-to-day running of the kingdom and is set to take over when Fahd dies.
Is Saudi Arabia the leading source of oil imported into the United States?
Yes. Saudi Arabia accounts for about 20 percent of total U.S. crude-oil imports and 10 percent of U.S. oil consumption. Saudi Arabia has often sold oil to the United States at less than its market value, which has saved the United States hundreds of millions of dollars. In return, Saudi Arabia remains the principal international supplier of U.S. oil—which has meant, among other things, that the United States rushed to the kingdom’s defense in 1990 when Iraq invaded neighboring Kuwait. While some critics argue that the United States needs to become independent of Saudi oil, many oil experts consider this impossible.
Is Osama bin Laden from Saudi Arabia?
Yes. Bin Laden was born in 1957 to a wealthy Saudi businessman with Yemeni roots. Bin Laden left Saudi Arabia to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan in the 1980s. By 1992, bin Laden was calling for the toppling of the Saudi government, which revoked his citizenship in 1994.
