Here are two articles from yesturday's News Leader about an ongoing fight of seperation of church and state. I think it is so funny that everyone makes such a fuss about it all when the words Seperation of Church and State are not found anywhere in the constitution. Infact the first amendment clearly states,
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
Isn't congress prohibiting the free excersize when they forbid someone from displaying the Ten Commandments or the Nativity Seen? I don't care who you are and what you believe. The simple truth is that the founding fathers had no intent to completely disregard God when it came to governing the people. The shear principles of christianity are reflected all through the laws and the very basis of the laws are the Ten Commandments. While not everyone has to believe in God or Jesus Christ, those that don't could at least be a little respectful of our heritage. I can not believe that it is that offensive to look at the Ten Commandment posted in a cafeteria or a court house. If it is just look the other direction. I don't know now many times I have to look away from something, or pretend I didn't hear something that is a million times more offensive. I think people just need to realize that this country was founded on Christian beliefs and they need to quit fussing about what is made public. Its not like anyone is forcing a point of view on anyone when they are simply trying to express how they feel.
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Beliefs change over time. Christianity isn't the same all-powerful ideology it used to be. And your same argument can be used against you.. upholding a specific religion's beliefs in a government institution is respecting that particular religion, just as you say not allowing them to is prohibiting it. P.S. I don't have a problem looking away either, but I can fully see the fact that there shouldn't be any connection between church and state in such a diverse country.
i'm not saying just uphold the one belief...heck they could post they budist and muslim equivelent to the ten commandments...i know that they have one...i'm just saying that we should be able to post something that is the very basis of this country.
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I think the route they're taking is to avoid displeasing anyone moreso than trying to please everyone. There are tons of religions and it'd be a bitch to respect every single one, so it's more practical to simply not honor any of them.
Isn't Atheism a religion too? The word "Atheism" contains the word "god" (thei is greek for "God"). So we're imposing a new religion, starting in our government.
Thank god the first amendment doesn't say the courts can't establish a religion, lest we all be in trouble. (Of course, it doesn't say the President can't do that either, so I don't know what the stink over faith based initiates is all about.......)
Tzimisce wrote:Isn't Atheism a religion too? The word "Atheism" contains the word "god" (thei is greek for "God"). So we're imposing a new religion, starting in our government.
Thank god the first amendment doesn't say the courts can't establish a religion, lest we all be in trouble. (Of course, it doesn't say the President can't do that either, so I don't know what the stink over faith based initiates is all about.......)
I do believe in means "Without God/Godless.." Atheism isn't a religion, it's an ideology.
seperation of church and state simply means that there will be no government imposed religion.
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v. im·posed, im·pos·ing, im·pos·es
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1. To establish or apply as compulsory; levy: impose a tax.
2. To apply or make prevail by or as if by authority: impose a peace settlement. See Synonyms at dictate.
3. To obtrude or force (oneself, for example) on another or others.
4. Printing. To arrange (type or plates) on an imposing stone.
5. To offer or circulate fraudulently; pass off: imposed a fraud on consumers.
it doesn't even say that the government can't ENDORSE a religion or religions (i.e. the Judeo-christian morals and influence that built our country). All the new problems you see is because of someone taking the idea of seperation and taking it way to far. Displaying the ten commandments doesn't impose religon, it shows something about how the people who served our government or made our laws were inspired. Until you get a letter in the mail saying you have to be christian, seperation of church and state is intact.
and I'm not christian, or jewish.
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You can't prove the existance of god, you have to take it on faith.
But you can't disprove the existance of god either - you also have to take that on faith.
Atheists are just as Zealous as any other type of believer and they're trying just as hard to force their beliefs on everyone as any other type of zealot. But they're more dangerous. They demand that the 10 commandments be taken down cause they don't believe it. We're not allowed to pray in schools cause they don't believe it. They want us to only deal with what is "real" - things that can be measured and touched and looked at.
They also want to deny the things that make us human, believing in higher ideals and being motivated by our passions. Athiests seem to want us to be boiled down to robots: making decisions with only consideration to the cold logic. But people aren't that way in real life.
Unfortunately, I believe there is more to the world than what is tangible. For me, it's just as real. You can't measure love or anger. You can't touch hatred or creativity. Are we to believe they don't exist cause we can't see them?
To me, a truly non religious person would be an agnostic - someone who just goes along with whatever religion comes down the pike.
There is nothing wrong with being human or allowing our passions to motivate us in our day to day lives or in our political decisions.
agnostics don't really go with whatever comes down the pike, they're undecided on whether a god exists. I don't really think that it's just agnostics that are behind these suits, it's a bunch of secular ACLU lawyers. They're just trying to take the religion out of our history. They've also scared some school districts enough to take the delcaration of independence out of a teacher's suplimentary teaching materials. Yeah, really.
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ok i screwed that one up somehow. Sorry its been a long night at work.
So where was I when they did that, take the declaration of Independance out of teaching materials. Usually I find out about this stuff one way or another. That is so completely wrong words can't even describe it. It is one thing to take prayer out of the school but to totally rewrite history in the text books just to make people happy. This world has just gotten so sad and its not the agnostics fault they wouldn't care b/c they aren't sure what they believe. Its the aithiest because they are so unhappy and empty inside but to stubborn to believe that they are trying to knock everyone who does believe down. Its all apart of Satan's plan. To knock God out of this nation and sadly enough it almost working. All because the majority is to afraid to stand up for what they believe and somehow the minority has gotten us all twisted around their little fingers. Its sad to say and very harsh but it is all so true.
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